. In the life of Columbus, Martin Vincent, pilot of the King of Portugal, picked up off Cape S. Vincent a piece of carved wood; and a similar fragment was washed ashore on the Island of Madeira, and found by Pedro Correa, brother-in-law of the great navigator. i. lec. A legend of the twelfth century, given by Surius, invests the story with all the colours of a romance. In regard to his form, they declare in their affidavits, which were regularly taken and recorded, that he appeared like an old man, strong limbed, with broad shoulders, but his arms they could not see. Although it currently seems that Scotland has evidence of the earliest published melody and several beautiful song variants, the popular Parting Glass currently in circulation has strong Irish and North American influences to thank. Unde quidam vulgariter loquens ait:, Rusticus in Luna,Quem sarcina deprimit unaMonstrat per opinasNulli prodesse rapinas,, which may be translated thus: Do you know what they call the rustic in the moon, who carries the fagot of sticks? So that one vulgarly speaking says,, See the rustic in the Moon,How his bundle weighs him down;Thus his sticks the truth reveal,It never profits man to steal., Shakspeare refers to the same individual in his Midsummer Nights Dream. Quince the carpenter, giving directions for the performance of the play of Pyramus and Thisbe, orders: One mustcome in with a bush of thorns and a lantern, and say he comes in to disfigure, or to present, the person of Moonshine. And the enacter of this part says, All I have to say is, to tell you that the lantern is the moon; I the man in the moon; this thorn-bush my thorn-bush; and this dog my dog.. Wieland, armed with a root which renders him invisible, approaches the bank and steals the clothes. 2. They tell a long and silly story about him; but, as I have clearly ascertained, not one of either sect has any certain information regarding Tammuz, or the reason of their lamenting over him. For as the child is in its mothers womb living and not suffering, so have we lived without suffering, fast asleep. And having thus spoken, they bowedtheir heads, and their souls returned to their Maker. And the natives there see pale, statue-like figures and dead corpses wandering[181]. According to Philemon in Pliny, the Cimbri called the Northern Ocean Morimarusa,i.e. I think you will enjoy all the above as they really resonate with the Celt in us all. Apollo identical with the sun, Python the stormcloud. When Constantinople fell into the hands of the Turks, a priest was celebrating the sacred mysteries at the great silver altar of St. Sophia. They're sorry for my going away, As soon as the boy was led forth, Toki carefully admonished him to receive the whir of the arrow as calmly as possible, with attentive ears, and without moving his head, lest by a slight motion of the body he should frustrate the experience of his well-tried skill. Between the sandy sea and the said mountains, in a certain plain is a fountain of singular virtue, which purges Christians and would-be Christians from all transgressions. One, for a ladys back-hair, ornamented, and of stags horn, came from the terramare of Fodico di Poviglio. Shall we meet beyond the river,Where the surges cease to roll,Where in all the bright For-everSorrow neer shall press the soul? Our land is the home of elephants, dromedaries, camels, crocodiles, meta-collinarum, cametennus, tensevetes, wild asses, white and red lions, white bears, white merules, crickets, griffins, tigers, lamias, hyenas, wild horses, wild oxen and wild men, men with horns, one-eyed, men with eyes before andbehind, centaurs, fauns, satyrs, pygmies, forty-ell-high giants, Cyclopses, and similar women; it is the home, too, of the phnix, and of nearly all living animals. Ungarelli, Interpretat. I know also, at Constantinople, the son of a physician, aged two years, who was born with a tail an inch long; he belonged to the white Caucasian race. It is radically different: its framework and nerve is of ancient British origin, passing itself off as a spiritual Christianity. In one of our lands, hight Zone, are worms called in our tongue Salamanders. The rats of Bingen issue from the flames in which the poor people are being consumed. From his wallet drew a human hand,Shrivelld, and dry, and black;And fitting, as he spake,A taper in his hold,Pursued: A murderer on the stake had died;I drove the vulture from his limbs, and loptThe hand that did the murder, and drew upThe tendon strings to close its grasp;And in the sun and wind Parchd it, nine weeks exposed.The taper . Then said he, Faire sweete Father, Jesu Christ, if ever I did thing that pleased the Lord, for thy pittie ne have me not in despite for my foull sins done here before time, and that thou shew me some thing of that which I seek.. In the Undine story, a water-maiden, in like manner and for a like object, is adopted by an old fisherman,, and becomes the bride of a youthful German knight. "The Parting Glass" was re-introduced to mid-20th century audiences by the recordings and performances of The Clancy Brothers and Tommy Makem. The mysterious Western Land, in Irish, is called Thierna na oge, or the Country of Youth; and it is identified with a city of palaces and minsters sunk beneath the Atlantic, or at the bottom of lakes. It symbolizes the eternal governance of the world, and to it the worshipper of Vishnu attributes as many virtues as does the devout Catholic to the Christian cross. And there is a faire chirche. This he did, making considerable use of a history of the mysterious lady, written by one of the race of Lusinia, William de Portenach (qu. That I should rise and you should not And perhaps be welcomed back again It was supposed that this hole gave admittance to Purgatory; and the popular but faulty derivation of Hrsel wasHre, die SeeleHark, the Souls! He consented and took her to his house, where she was to him as a daughter. The version told in the Netherlands much resembled that related at St. Albans, only that the Jew, seeing the people dragging Christ to his death, exclaims,, Atends moi! I do not propose that you should print my narrative, but I think in these cases personal testimony, even indirect, is more useful in forming ones opinion than a hundred old volumes. In the mean time, the day was waning; the barge was ready to convey him to land, and would assuredly bring him back. Paris, 1861, p. 280. Click HERE for more information A handwritten card will accompany the Planting Certificate. Any cookies that may not be particularly necessary for the website to function and is used specifically to collect user personal data via analytics, ads, other embedded contents are termed as non-necessary cookies. The court in which we watch the jousting is floored with onyx in order to increase the courage of the combatants. Much may be said in favor of either supposition. The very name of Siren is (greek) from to pipe or whistle[127], just as their representatives in Vedic mythology, the Ribhus, draw their name fromrebh,to sound, to which the Greek (greek) is akin. Let us turn to the Scandinavians. Achilles, a humanized sun-god, was vulnerable in his heel, just as the Teutonic Sigfried could only be wounded in his back: this represents the sun as retiring from the heavens with his back turned, struck by the weapon of darkness, just as Ares, the blind God, with his tusk slew Adonis, or sightless Hodr with his mistletoe shaft smote Baldur. On Babylonish cylinders it is generally employed in conjunction with the hawk or eagle, either seated on it, or flying above it. What the cauldron signifies it is difficult to ascertain. i. As the lateral limbs could have been of little or no use, it is probable that these cruciform hammers were those used in consecrating victims in Thorrs worship. . The Arbhus became in Teutonic mythology the Alben, Elben or Elfen, our Elfs, and in Scandinavian the Alfar. On the morrow, the bishop discovering his error, how we know not, sent for Theophilus, and acknowledged publicly that he had been misled by false reports, the utter valuelessness of which he was ready frankly to acknowledge; and he asked pardon of the priest, for having unjustly deprived him of his office. The North-American Indians relate that they were conducted from Northern Asia by a man-fish. Cicero in his De Officiis alludes to it. But the stout partisans of the Pope-Joan tale assert, on the authority of the Annales Augustani,[29]and some other, but late authorities, that the female Pope was John VIII., who consecrated Louis II. These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. That it also symbolized regeneration through water, I also believe. The Red Book is a volume of Welsh prose and verse romances and tales, begun in the year 1318, and finished in 1454. The "parting glass", or "stirrup cup", was the final hospitality offered to a departing guest. Then the citizens held counsel, and it was decided that each day a man and a beast should be offered, so that at last they gave up their children, sons and daughters, and none were spared. [185] Davies, Mythology of the Druids, p. 522. In a Sclavonian legend, a youth was reposing in a forest. In the afternoon of the same day she made experiment with her rod, and found that it would no longer operate. Then he bade him return at once to Iceland, and'warn his kindred not to seek him in his new home. The same story-root remains, but it is varied according to the temperament of the narrator or the exigencies of localization. Diocletian believed him to be dead; but an angel appearing, George courteously saluted him in military fashion, whereby the persecutor ascertained that the Saint was still living. On reaching the castle of Megen, the swan rose from the water, and flew to the grave of Carl-Ynach, where its mistress was wont to feed it. In ancient Keltic Mythology the nether world was divided into three circles, corresponding with Purgatory, Hell, and Heaven; and over Hell was cast a bridge, very narrow, which souls were obliged to traverse if they hoped to reach the mansions of light. Leonardo Dati, a Florentine poet of the fifteenth century, composed a geographical treatise in verse, entitled Della Sfera; and it is in Asia that he locates the garden:, Asia e le prima parte dove lhuomoSendo innocente stava in Paradiso.. The first to question the reverence shown for S. George was Calvin, who says Nil eos Christo reli-quum facere qui pro nihilo ducunt ejus intercessio-nem, nisi accedant Georgius aut Hippolitus, aut similes larvae. Dr. Reynolds follows in the wake, and identifies the martyr with the Arian Bishop of Alexandria. I spent it in good company The bardic table of the elect became the round-table of Arthurs knights, and the sacred vessel of mysteries became the Grail. Benaiah, having arrived at the cistern of Asmodeus, undermined it, and let the water off by a little hole, which he then plugged up with the wool; after which he filled the pit with wine. Vade, the father of the famous smith Velund, was the son of King Vilkin and a mermaid whom he met in a wood on the sea-shore in Russia[165]. Having obtained this information, the two Eireks started, furnished with letters from the Greek Emperor. The rod remained immovable. Humboldt, in his remarks on this passage, says: Pomponius Mela, who lived at a period sufficiently near that of Cornelius Nepos, relates, and Pliny repeats it, that Metellus Celer, whilst Proconsul of Gaul, received as a gift from a king of the Boii or Boeti (the name is somewhat uncertain, and Pliny calls him a king of the Suevi) some Indians who, driven by the tempests from the Indian seas, landed on the coasts of Germany. They were constructed of great boulders, rectangular, somewhat cylindrical, and slightly conical. The story of long sleepers and the number seven connected with it is ancient enough, and dates from heathen mythology. This month is called Tammuz, according to what the Nabathaeans say, as I have found it in their books, and is named after a man of whom a strange long story is told, and who was put to death, they relate, several times in succession in a most cruel manner. Northumberland. And therefore somme men seyn, that he dyed noughte, but that he resteth there till the Day of Doom. With a glass in hand, all in attendance raise that glass to the person lost with water of life ( Uisce Beatha * Meaning water of life but the Irish Language for Whiskey) and the toast or toasts are spoken. After having referred to a report that Paracelsus was not dead, but was seated alive, asleep or napping, in his sepulchre at Strasburg, preserved from death by some of his specifics, Libavius declares that he would sooner believe in the old man, the Jew, Ahasverus, wandering over the world, called by some Buttadus, and otherwise, again, by others. And theres a hand my trusty friend! Without the financial help of people like yourself, this site wouldn't be able to continue running. And when Helias saw him, he saide in himselfe: Here is a signification that God sendeth to me for to shew to me that I ought to go by the guyding of this swanne into some countrey for to have honour and consolacion. The Amazons and the Brahmins are subject to us. A monster Grendel haunts a marsh near a town on the North Sea. Rabbinical fantasy has developed other myths concerning this mysterious force, resident in worm or stone. as they reachd the mountains side,A wondrous portal opend wide,As if a cavern were suddenly hollowd;And the piper advanced, and the children followd;And when all were in, to the very last,The door in the mountain side shut fast., No! In 1682, a Greenland canoe appeared off the Isle of Eda in the Orkneys, and in the church of Burra was long preserved an Esquimaux boat which had been washed ashore[173]. [68] Christian Remembrancer, vol. Like Helmas, he breaks his promise and loses his wife. Both orders were vowed to chastity and obedience, both were subject to a head, who exercised regal authority. Among the heathen, flows through a certain province the River Indus; encircling Paradise, it spreads its arms in manifold windings through the entire province. Among the Norse such a practice was not unknown. how it expresses the passions of love and hate! 17; x. According to an eminent Dutch minister, it is immaterial whether the child be fathered on Satan or a monk; at all events, the former took a lively interest in the youthful Antichrist, and, on the occasion of his birth, was seen and heard fluttering overhead, crowing and chanting in an unmusical voice the Sibylline verses announcing the birth of the Arch-persecutor:, Papa pater patrum, Papiss pandito partumEt tibi tunc eadem de corpore quando recedam!. For his part he would well rejoice were God in heaven to release him from this vale of tears. The age of the terramares must be long antecedent to the time of Etruscan civilization. In that of Bran the Blessed, the head is thrown into the basin to destroy its efficacy. Before I visited this island, he writes, I had often heard tell that there were men who had long tails, like brute beasts; but I had never been able to believe it, and I regarded it as a thing so alien to our nature, that I should now have difficulty in accepting it, if my own senses had not removed from me every pretence for doubting the fact, by the following strange adventure: The inhabitants of Formosa, being used to see us, were in the habit of receiving us on terms which left nothing to apprehend on either side; so that, although mere foreigners, we always believed ourselves in safety, and had grown familiar enough to ramble at large without an escort, when grave experience taught us that, in so doing, we were hazarding too much. And who art thou, friend? Geyti, Aslaks son. The dead man, in short, alive and well. But the shipping of the dead had no significance in Scandinavian mythology, whilst it was full of meaning in that of the Kelts. Melosine-Geschicht, illustrated with woodcuts; Heidelberg, 1491. There were some, he says, to whom it seemed that the kings secret wish was, that Thomas should be got rid of. Every succeeding hour the sick man became worse, and when the first glimpse of the morning appeared, Mr. Bunworth expired. sent two men learned in Oriental languages through Egypt to the court of Abyssinia. The classic legend of Ulysses, held captive for eight years by the nymph Calypso in the Island of Ogygia, and again for one year by the enchantress Circe, contains the root of the same story of the Tanhuser. Again they went in procession, and were met by a charcoal-burner, who promised to destroy the insects, if the people would expend five hundred gulden on a chapel. Here he lived with a holy widow. In the Greek fable, a peasant liberates an eagle from the clutches of a dragon. Indeed, in ancient iconography horns invariably connect the gods represented with the two great sources of light. The beggar began collecting all the valuables of the house into a large sackno lock withstood the application of the flaming hand. When the golden-haired deity was born, swans came from the golden stream of Pactolus, and seven times wheeled about Delos, uttering songs of joy. Hjuki is derived from the verb jakka, to heap or pile together, to assemble and increase; and Bil from bila, to break up or dissolve. Good night and joy be with you all. Jean dArras attributes this to a curse pronounced on her by the fay Pressina, but this is an invention of his own; the true conception of Melusina he did not grasp, and was therefore obliged to forge a legend which should account for her peculiar appearance. In a similar manner Ogier-le-Danois found himself unconscious of the lapse of time in Avalon. The text is doubtless older than its 1770 appearance in broadside, as it was recorded in the Skene Manuscript, a collection of Scottish airs written at various dates between 1615 and 1635. He continued tracing down the right bank of the Rhone till he came to half a league from the bridge of Lyons. Come fill to me the parting glass For a moment we see the working of the miserable shoemakers mind. The sun, the moon, and two stars, are placed at the feet of the Angel, the Bull, the Lion, and the Eagle. It was 59 inches long, and in proportion as an eel. Aymar indicated the broken window as the means whereby the thief had entered the house, and pointed out the window by which he had left it with the booty. Then she comes to him on the eve of his second marriage and kisses him to death. Explycit O wayne[38].. Perhaps it was in anticipation of this, that ancient mystical interpreters explained the scene at the well in Midian as having reference to the last times. The squares in the first, third, and fifth rows were filled with a graceful pattern composed of curves, In the second and fourth rows, however, every fourth square contained a distinctly characterized red cross on white ground, with a delicate white spine down the middle. M. Vir-gines, or the eleven martyr-virgins, and the M. have been mistaken in a later age for a numeral. The Church, like the daughters of Reuel, comes to the Well of living waters to water her parched flock; whereupon the shepherdsher chief pastorsarise and strive with her. 30, 3; Lucian, de Electro, 5. We find rats and mice regarded as sacred animals in other Aryan mythologies. The black cloud with the lambent flames issuing from it was the original of the magical hand of glory. He soon learned to talk. P- 341. The names are: Divine Rod, Shining Rod, Leaping Rod, Transcendent Rod, Trembling Rod, Dipping Rod, Superior Rod. He misunderstands the act, and kills his preserver. Wherefore she committed her to God, praying Him humbly to succour her, and reprove the injury that wickedly to her was imposed by the sayd erle.. The next day was Sunday. bobo6422 B Col Reidy The parting glass Great Song Lyrics Lyrics And Chords Songs To Sing Kids Songs Music Songs Guitar Lessons Songs Guitar Songs Music Lessons KOOL 102.3 Music of KOOL Four Five c. 33. One day the Count and his retinue hunted a boar in the forest of Colombiers, and distancing his servants, Emmerick found himself alone in the depths of the wood with Raymond. there is the end of the world, and that is India. And pray where am I to find the Deathless Land? That liesParadise, I suppose, you meanwell, it lies slightly east of India.. All the members of this tribe bear the caudal appendage, and, as Oriental imagination is given to exaggeration, I was assured that the tails sometimes attained the length of two feet. which lines, as being perhaps the only ones known to be of diabolic composition, are deserving of preservation. Whan the time limited and ordeined of almighti god approched that the noble and goodly queue Beatrice should be delivered after the cours of nature, the false matrone aforsaid went and delibered in herselfe to execute and put in effecte her malignus or moste wicked purpose. The influence of Persian mythology is also perceptible in the legend. Strange sights are around him, he sees them not; strange sounds assail his ears, he hears but onethe trumpet-note which gives the signal for him to stay his wanderings and rest his weary feet. Joseph of Arimathasa collected the blood in the vessel from which the Saviour had eaten the last supper. Good night and joy be to you all It is certainly not later than the reign of Henry VI. Surprised at this resistance, Solomon lowered the walls of his palace, to suit the beam, but at once it shot up and pierced the roof, like an arrow driven through a piece of canvas, or a bird recovering its liberty. In one was secreted gold, in another silver, in a third silver and gold, in the fourth copper, and in the fifth stones. xxvii. et Eccles. Uttering a piercing cry, she rushed to the door of the room the beggar had entered, and locked it. The flesh was represented red; the hair, and beard, and trident were a blue-black. And the way in which Solomon obtained the worm was this. In course of time, the Lady of Lusignan gave birth to a son, who was baptized Urian. It was the emblem of Quiateot, the god of Rain. We lead them at our pleasure against our foes, and neither man nor beast is left undevoured, if our Majesty gives the requisite permission. Consequently we know of S. George little, except that there was such a martyr, that he was a native of Lydda, but brought up in Cappadocia, that he entered the Roman army and suffered a cruel death for Christ. In the North, Frederic and Charlemagne certainly replace Odin. Besides these symbols is delineated in each compartment an orb of heaven. Paris, p. 137. The dumb child pointed out the spot where the children had vanished, and the blind boy related his sensations when he heard the piper play. It has been made into a romance by Hoffman, and is versified by Trinius. The wretched man was so confounded by this recognition, that he avowed having staid there, a few days before, along with two Provenals. We are very pleased to She was a very clever and accomplished woman; Scotch by birth and education; by no means credulous; possibly a a little imaginative, for she wrote not unsuccessfully; and of a remarkably open and straightforward disposition. The Scandinavian Valhalla was not situated beyond the Western Sea, but on the summit of a great mountain; whereas the Keltic Avalon lay over the blue waters, beneath the setting sun. This miracle converted the Empress Alexandra; and Diocletian was so exasperated against the truth, that he condemned her to instant death. If there is something majestic in the heathen myth, there are singular grace and beauty in the Christian tale, teaching, as it does, such a glorious doctrine; but it is surpassed in delicacy by the modern form which the same myth has assumeda form which is a real transformation, leaving the doctrine taught the same. Then he advanced to meet the monster, recommending himself to God. Theophilus is driven from his position by slanders: this preys on his mind. Henry de Knyghton, in his history, however, asserts that it was not the Apostle of Ireland, but an abbot Patrick, to whom the revelation of purgatory was made; and John of Brompton says the same. Jacobus, Archbishop of Antioch, a Briton by birth, had gone to Rome to visit Cyriacus the Pope, but had learned, on his arrival, that his holiness had been last seen clambering the Alps in the train of eleven thousand virgins of entrancing beauty. . Then they begin to play on their pipes; at the sound, the transformed brothers, Hunbatz and Hunchouen, are attracted from the forest to the house, they enter it and begin to dance. When we ride abroad plainly, we have a wooden, unadorned cross, without gold or gemabout it, borne before us, in order that we may meditate on the sufferings of Our Lord Jesus Christ; also a golden bowl filled with earth, to remind us of that whence we sprung, and that to which we must return; but besides these there is borne a silver bowl full of gold, as a token to all that we are the Lord of Lords. The earliest acts quoted by the Bollandists, are in Greek, and belong to the sixth century; they are fabulous. A single thought of passion would obscure the eye and conceal the mystic vessel. Now lock, nor bolt, nor bar avails,Nor stout oak panel thick-studded with nails.Heavy and harsh the hinges creak,Though they had been oild in the course of the week.The door opens wide as wide may be,And there they stand,That murderous band,Lit by the light of theGlorious Hand,By one!by two!by three! The sternum, or breast-bone, was perfect. And so evere more sittiens, he is clept Prestre John.. She is commonly called the Papess Joan. 235240. This work is simply the story of Owain slightly altered. The very namerevolution, derived from the Latin verbrevolvo, is indicative of the coils of a serpent like the Python. He implored her pardon and all-prevailing intercession, and this she promised him. The hero descends to his realm, fights, overcomes him, and despoils him of his treasures. Of course, in the sacred writings there is no allusion to the moon. how nicely it gives token of the feelings of joy or fear which animate the soul! It may seem difficult at first sight to trace the connexion between the moon, a water-goddess, and a deity presiding over childbirth; yet it is certain that such a connexion does exist. [208] Reiftenberg, Le Chevalier au Cygne. A rowing boat was obtained, and Aymar, with his escort, descended the river; he foundsome difficulty in following the trail upon water; still he was able, with a little care, to detect it. 27. Once upon a time a shepherd was driving his flock over the Ilsenstein, when, wearied with his tramp, he leaned upon his staff. I have elsewhere referred to the story of Urvac, the Apsaras, and her lover Puravaras. A sad picture, but doubtless one very true. Let us follow Launcelot who was on a ship. In the year 711 lived Beatrice only daughter of Dietrich, Duke of Cleves, at her castle of Nymwe-gen. One bright day she sat at her window looking down the Rhine, when she saw a swan drawing a boat by a gold chain. From handmade pieces to vintage treasures ready to be loved again, Etsy is the global marketplace for unique and creative goods. Then he told Matabrune of the marvel he had seen, and she at once concluded that these were her grandchildren; wherefore she bade the yeoman take seven fellows with him and slay the children. . Then the man without the heart said to his wife, Go to the place where the dead lie, there you will find a purse, in that purse is her soul; shake the purse over the dead womans bones, and she will come to life. The woman did as she was ordered, and the mother of the Samojed revived. Katai Khan lived on the coast of the White Sea, at the foot of gloomy mountains. After fifty-seven years he awoke, and found every thing changed. Arians and Catholics were too bitterly hostile, for it to be possible that a partisan of the former, and a persecutor, should be accepted as a saint by the latter. He listend and lookdit was only the cat;But the Bishop he grew more fearful for that,For she sat screaming, mad with fear,At the army of rats that were drawing near. Come, heavnly wind, and blowA prosprous gale of grace,To waft from all belowTo heavn, my destined place:There in full sail my port Ill find,And leave the world and sin behind., Or I might quote a poem on The Last Voyage, from the Lyra Messianica, which one would have supposed to have been founded on the Gaelic legend told by Macpherson:. This king, years before, had gathered all the treasures that he had obtained in a long life of piracy, and had suffered himself to be buried alive with his ill-gotten wealth. The mother of the Samojed saw that they were without hearts, so she went to the lake where swam the six maidens; she stole one dress, and would not restore it till the maiden had promised to recover the hearts which were in the air. [101] Cypr. Sir Thomas Malory gives a different account of the wounding of the king from that in the Romans du San Greal, and makes his healing depend on the arrival of a knight who is a clean maid, who shall apply to him the sacred blood. She blew at them in vain; she poured some drops from a beer-jug over them, but that only made the fingers burn the brighter; she cast some water upon them, but still without extinguishing the light. The next to give us an account of his descent into S. Patricks Purgatory, is William Staunton of Durham, who went down into the cave on the Friday next after the feast of Holy rood, in the year 1409. He then went to the court of Diocletian, where he hoped to find advancement. In the Paris royal library is a romance upon this subject, consisting of about 30,000 lines, begun by a Renax or Renant, and finished by a Gandor de Douay.
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