Better for who? You are clearly one of the professional buyers who doesn't take advantage of the system but there are so many out there who do that and 3D sites are beginning to try to safe guard their artist's work by not making it so easy to just get everything you want for free. CG trader is the first helpfull professional website I've seen in 20 years. IMHO that is main area where CGT must up their game significantly. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. Although I agree the presentation of CGtraders home page is heavily focused at 3D printing, NoneCG did not suffer ANY drop in sales. TS is simply in decline getting worse and worse. Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. You could have a superman body with an iron man head and spiderman gloves. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! I think that the ones that do come here to buy CG models might not return if they get fed up while searching for the right one. The utopian view here is a successful merge of all related activities (or at least part), connecting as much people as possibly can that are doing something that could potentially involve 3D, and in doing so eventually streamline part of the global 3D marketplace and increase the amount of successful transactions between many possible parties. Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. Agree with every word above. [google][http://www.google.com|google4 ] Is it the return guarantee if not satisfied? That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. TS removes this rating. A little more than a year passed since our public disagreement with Turbosquid policies and behavior that ended our relationship as content creator and reseller. (These stats can be confirmed as true by CGtrader staff, we have no problem with that). Marius Kalytis (founder of this place) was a 3D artist himself and took notice of the questionable policy's the established market had adopted (leaving room to do it differently). A few weeks later, my first 3d model was sold on TS, while I had to wait 4 or 5 months to get my first sales on CGT, And the sad thing is that those sales concerned only low-priced models. As long as CGtrader and Marius keep leading the inclusive marketplaces with respect for the Artists and their own branding, we at NoneCG will continue to support CGtrader and Marius indefinitely, no extra shiny coins needed for us. But now, I'm exploring a new platform which is Sketchfab. The response back was, if they are not adjusted end of the week then we will adjust them. It's like if shapeways.com will start selling classic "cg" models. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . Well, unless I can verify the quality of the model I'm not going to pay for most things. Also could you elaborate on the search and going backwards issue? If you have any questions about these items before you purchase, please contact us at https://support.turbosquid.com/ Determining the optimal cost of the models is an important and difficult moment. I'm about to bail on this site now - unless I can find any other topics that I might be qualified to post toapparently if I'm friendly enough I can earn some points, but it's seriously unlikely that I'll find any topics to which I can actually contribute. Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. I see what you mean but I think it depends on how you are covering markets. As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble. If the assumption is correct that a client goes to TS by default as a reflective action, "huh, there's another site, didn't know that! The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. They recently changed their search engine over there and when you search for Free models it comes up with a few free ones and many more paid ones so from that perspective Turbosquid makes your life even harder lol. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". They then review the model and contact seller to fix it. ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) I am going to start a list to promote artists who are making great models but just aren't getting the views. Work directly with a 3D artist for your project. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. The system would make a seller more responsible and promote a culture of diversification (in theory). TS staff do their best and is not responsible for the strategic choice of TS this issue frequently occurs when a seller wants to break a competitor. One of the biggest problems in this country is that the games and film studios are becoming a bit of a joke and not getting the funding they used to have. For this, it is certainly the most pleasant place to sell models I know right now. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. What that means is that customers have the illusion of it being the best site out there even if the quality of the products is way below CGTrader. Not artist friendly at all, from uploading to statistics (Model views, downloads, and so on). A shitstorm war is going on between the "Wisdom" brothers & their Top $ Corporate Investors against Marius' CGtrader, who is leading the inclusive people that don't dance to the song of dangling shiny coins in front of their eyes just for the time being and the now. Plus giving much higher royalties, instantly paid, much better support, publishing system, etc. Hi from Will and Mr Data :) :] When you search for specific models car, bike etc you usually end up finding a bunch of irrelevant models in there that don't even belong in that category and that is largely due to the fact that, they allow users to setup their own tags Market your products turbo squid does that for you i understand but if your trying to sell you have to show the customers where its at. Having a direct link/communication is also critical in detecting possible needs and potential new business. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. They should make more effort to advertise. Noise Treshold: That is true, but im talking if buyer is already familiar with existence of CGTrader, he can reap all the benefits then. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGTrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money! This site is bloated with 3D print ready models, crap models and "adult content / i cant see it". Then someone from cgtrader decided that he likes 3dprinting sooo much. Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment I hope someone someday will take the concept behind old cgtrader A very interesting idea about the stores and collections. I tested it with golden palace, clothing and various hair, other textures, they all worked fine August 22, 2022 at 6:03 am #1859211 Sabrina Participant Rank: @Goblyn Glad you enjoy it! "Even being a diamond doesnt seem to give me the benefits of sale coz TS takes so much from my sales (everyone's sale) that i would hardly call it profit or any acceptable income. By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. And i cannot take care for piracy or stolen models because the 3d stuff will go in piracy anyways, doensnt matter the platform it comes from. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count. Thingiverse remains the king for licensing, as you can transfer the licence within the site. Yes CGtrader is great! You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. Turbosquid immediately shuts any links down. If you're searching for a regular model, you have to click on the little icon "CG models", but nothing changes on the page when you do so. I'm done with them. IT'S A WASTE OF TIME. Every market needs time, every business needs it. In fact my sells on TS are actually going down while they go up on CGt. We will rather stick with cgtrader and know our models are safe, although the issue with finding CG models on the site is a little problem, but as long as they stay honest well be supporting them rather than supporting a bunch of thiefs and if we need to up our prices then so be it. NoneCG will be up for it. There are very few modelers out there who can actually support themselves financially doing this and whenever one of us sells anything it is a little like winning the lottery. I left all but . And it offers a more strategic dimension. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. Turbosquid bites the hands that feed them: Brittney Briere, Sep 18, 09:53 SST: i like the points system on cg trader . there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. For example, make affiliation partnerships between people/storeowners possible. I'll ask my friend to get in touch with you for the unsolved support, as I think it is him who has to do that - not me. "that is where the big money can be", being able to part with an invention has value. I have no problem with a site offering an option for seller/buyer to find quality print-ready products. That thing is just getting started ;-). Best of luck to cg trader, they have a great business model and site, it is just going to be incredibly difficult to take any of the market share from such a well established company. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! 60% is an insult. - CGTrader pays a LOT more than TS; TS *keeps* 60% unless you sell exclusively on their site and join their "Squid Guild". (I forgot to put TS up). Next we would have the sales/customers feedback factor coming in to sort out the stores ranking. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, + c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. If anything buyers should get lots of points for buying. for someone that is a little more unique. When someone uploads a scanned model for 3D printing and tags it as "low poly", the model will appear even where it shouldn't. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. What, iterateCGI goos down? You can download any 3d model in all popular 3d formats including MAX, OBJ, FBX, 3DS, STL, C4D, BLEND, MAYA and other. [google14]url:http://www.google.com. On the other side, CGtrader empowers the real content creators, giving them all kind of freedom regarding their products and image, and encouraging communication between customers and content creators. google3 Yes you are right Zet! I do not know if community-policing has helped other sites keep their products better organized. Which is good, since we are the ones who will bring in the profits. If you look at the traffic statistics, TS ranks around 9k top sites, and CGT at around 42k, so obviously, people buy more at TS not because they want to spoil the sellers, but rather because they don't come to CGTrader enough and their first place to search is TS. Cgtrader cannot compare to certain 3d markets. On top of that they have so many odd restrictions and hoops you need to keep jumping through just to make your model visible and people end up having to buy diamond accounts because they know they won't sell a single model unless they do. Some may look great for close ups but in a large environment scene or house setting when you have a lot of models to let's say show off the interior design of a model home you need to be very careful on poly count.